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Sankt Hallvard · Apr 13, 2011, 07:35 PM // 19:35

Why the RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO does guesting people cost money?

Suggestion: guest invites are free.

Alternatively: you can talk to an AB guy and choose whether you want to play luxon or kurzick.

Rob Roy The Divine · Apr 13, 2011, 07:46 PM // 19:46

+1

why can't the luxon/kurz dudes in GTOB not just have AB added to them?

Outerworld · Apr 13, 2011, 08:26 PM // 20:26

notsigned/ is 100g really that much?

LifeInfusion · Apr 13, 2011, 08:30 PM // 20:30

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Originally Posted by Outerworld

notsigned/ is 100g really that much?

Agreed. this is a suggestion for the sake of a suggestion. The 100g is to discourage harassing random people to join/guest by invite spamming.

beerelf · Apr 13, 2011, 09:10 PM // 21:10

Go out and Kill a couple of creatures in HM. Problem solved.

/notsigned

RedDog91 · Apr 13, 2011, 09:14 PM // 21:14

The point of the suggestion forum is for discussion on why or why not you think a change should/shouldn't be made.
OP gave no reason for why he wants it changed, therefore we should not discuss it.

*lemming* · Apr 13, 2011, 09:25 PM // 21:25

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Originally Posted by beerelf

Go out and Kill a couple of creatures in HM. Problem solved.

/notsigned

Not everyone has PvE characters.

Although, it needs to be said - it's a lot easier now that zquests exist.

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Originally Posted by RedDog91

The point of the suggestion forum is for discussion on why or why not you think a change should/shouldn't be made.
OP gave no reason for why he wants it changed, therefore we should not discuss it.

The implication is pretty obvious if you read his post.

Rob Roy The Divine · Apr 13, 2011, 10:39 PM // 22:39

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Originally Posted by RedDog91

The point of the suggestion forum is for discussion on why or why not you think a change should/shouldn't be made.
OP gave no reason for why he wants it changed, therefore we should not discuss it.

what he means is that they're should be a way to get into the opposing factions AB, without having to ask people for guests. Usually people are busy, and do not have the 100g on them at that time to guest you. That is what is meant by making guest invites free :3

aga · Apr 14, 2011, 12:07 AM // 00:07

The 100g fee has never bothered, if you need a guest and the person who is going to guest you doesn't have any gold on him it won't hurt you to wait for a little while, or maybe he could ask someone else to guest you instead.

Reverend Dr · Apr 14, 2011, 05:30 PM // 17:30

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Originally Posted by Outerworld

notsigned/ is 100g really that much?

On a PvP-only character, yes it is.

Shijou · Apr 14, 2011, 09:00 PM // 21:00

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Originally Posted by Reverend Dr

On a PvP-only character, yes it is.

Sell a zkey in gtob.

Reverend Dr · Apr 14, 2011, 09:32 PM // 21:32

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Originally Posted by Shijou

Sell a zkey in gtob.

"Hey guys guest <player>"

"Hold on I have to go sell a key, give me 10 minutes"

When I am on my PvE character for PvP the cost to guest doesn't bother me in the slightest, but when on a PvP-only character it becomes a useless obstacle.

Still Number One · Apr 14, 2011, 09:50 PM // 21:50

agreed, this is an unnecessary obstacle.

/signed

Lanier · Apr 14, 2011, 09:51 PM // 21:51

I dont understand these guys who are saying "go kill some monsters" or "go sell a zkey". That is not a reason to be against this suggestion. I think some people are just trying to be argumentative...

Anyway, I don't see any reason why not, its not like there would be any downsides to this.

/signed

Brian the Gladiator · Apr 14, 2011, 10:03 PM // 22:03

The naysayers to this suggestion are the same people that would /notsign a suggestion to remove refund points back in the proph only days. "Just pick and build and stick with it!" right? There is absolutely no reason why it should cost 100g to guest somebody.

The suggestion is the removal of something that already exists in the game. The burden of finding reason for its existence is not on the OP but on those who oppose his suggestion. If something serves no purpose and is only harmful, then it should be gone.

As far as I'm concerned, end of discussion. /signed

Sankt Hallvard · Apr 14, 2011, 10:28 PM // 22:28

After the initial posts here I was *this* close to trolling my own thread. Fortunately these latest replies have lifted my spirits and hope in humanity back to an acceptable standard. Thanks guys.

Like has been said here there has yet not been brought up any serious reason why this should cost money. On the other hand the guesting issue is a major problem for a healthy AB environment. Quite often one side has an abundance of teams while the other side struggles to form up 3 teams. I always try to play on the side with the fewer teams in order to actually get a game to the benefit of me and everyone else who plays the format. But always trying to find guest invites for you and your team isn't always that easy. Begging randoms in GtoB for a guest invite and go through a lot of trouble to pay 100g plus possible agent-fee sucks.

So while the reason for my redengine'd suggestion is based on current AB problems I can see no valid reason for why guest invites should cost money so I stick to the proposal in my first post.

Reverend Dr · Apr 14, 2011, 10:41 PM // 22:41

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Originally Posted by Sankt Hallvard

Like has been said here there has yet not been brought up any serious reason why this should cost money.

Its a gold sink and the game does need gold sinks. However, it is minuscule and considering the GW economy is based upon ecto and not gold, arguing this is a needed gold sink is very difficult.

RedDog91 · Apr 15, 2011, 12:54 AM // 00:54

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Originally Posted by Sankt Hallvard

Like has been said here there has yet not been brought up any serious reason why this should cost money. On the other hand the guesting issue is a major problem for a healthy AB environment.

The reason it costs money is because the guest-system is designed to be a way for you to allow a player to check out your guild without them having to commit themselves to leaving their old one just yet. It was designed as a way for players to weigh their options about different guilds, by being able to see the guild hall and talk with it's members (as the guild hall was designed as a gathering place for guild members but most guilds now just use it as a base for GvG). Then, when a player makes their choice, they can be promoted to membership position in the desired guild.

It was not meant to be used to battle for certain sides in Alliance Battles, that just happens to be a side-effect of the AB-NPC being in the guild hall. Therefore, eliminating the cost for this purpose is not a necessary update.

Space · Apr 15, 2011, 10:58 AM // 10:58

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Originally Posted by RedDog91

The reason it costs money is because the guest-system is designed to be a way for you to allow a player to check out your guild without them having to commit themselves to leaving their old one just yet. It was designed as a way for players to weigh their options about different guilds, by being able to see the guild hall and talk with it's members (as the guild hall was designed as a gathering place for guild members but most guilds now just use it as a base for GvG). Then, when a player makes their choice, they can be promoted to membership position in the desired guild.

It was not meant to be used to battle for certain sides in Alliance Battles, that just happens to be a side-effect of the AB-NPC being in the guild hall. Therefore, eliminating the cost for this purpose is not a necessary update.

I agree, 100g is nothing. OP is probably just another lazy elitist PvPer.

However I like free things, so sign me up.

Alex/Stuiver · Apr 15, 2011, 11:46 AM // 11:46

100g is like nothing, you kill a few foes and you have earned it back.

For the people who only got pvp characters, the most people who only do pvp and/or are in a pvp only guild do a lot of HA which you will receive balth points and other valuable stuff which can be sold for money. What I'm trying to say is that pvp only people really do have 100g and if they dont they just started playing guildwars.

/notsigned.